My personal best picks and no im no handicapper just an old football coach

My personal best picks and no im no handicapper just an old football coach

Tennesee -4 over Houston
San Diego +4.5 at KC
Philadelphia -3 over seattle
New Orleans -3 over Tampa

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Getting em out early before the lines bounce around, I like that. Good luck Marc!

What are your thoughts on the Dal/GB game?

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I put 150 on GB to win outright i think there defense is head and shoulders above Dallas and im still not sold on the Cowboys yet....im thinking GB

Played SD 165 - pts
Philly 165 - pts
GB 150 moneyline
New Orleans  165 -pts
im gonna see if i can get tennesse at 2.5 -120 looks as though lot of money on a bad houston team...

Im seriously considering laying pts with Steelers as well but im way to favorite heavy this week!!!!  Not my normal!!

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Im seriously considering laying pts with Steelers as well but im way to favorite heavy this week!!!!  Not my normal!!

The field should still be in shape I imagine after the total got bet down from 48 to 46 today.

Steelers weighing field options following a Monday night mess

PITTSBURGH -- The Dolphins and Steelers rolled around in the muck and mire for more than 59 minutes without scoring, resembling a bunch of school kids playing a pickup game in a muddy backyard.

Running and passing plays appeared to be going in slow motion. Punting was difficult, kicking was nearly impossible. Players sunk ankle deep at times into the swamp-like field, and one punt nearly disappeared as it struck nose-first into the brand new turf, burrowing itself like a golf ball.

Welcome to Muddy Night Football.

''It was horrendous,'' Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward said. ''No offense. You could have put (Tom) Brady's offense out there without anyone scoring.''

Only this wasn't Lucy pulling the ball away from a slip-sliding Charlie Brown on Peanuts' imaginary playground, but a for-real NFL game with the potential to affect playoff races and the winless Dolphins' place in league history.

For one dreadful night, a perfect storm of weather-related events conspired to turn the Heinz Field grass into a surface that resembled a poorly maintained high school field. Neither team scored until Jeff Reed's 24-yard field goal with 17 seconds remaining won it for Pittsburgh 3-0.

The sod had been in place less than a day, put down hurriedly after five high school and college games last weekend chewed up the old turf. While the grass was new and plush, installing it atop the old field meant it didn't drain as well.

Add in a drenching rainstorm, the kind seldom seen in Pittsburgh so close to winter, and lightning, and it made for one of the weirdest NFL games of recent vintage.

During breaks, grounds crew members gouged the new sod with pitchforks to accelerate the drainage and emptied bags and bags of the water-drying substance more commonly seen at major league baseball games.

''On TV, maybe it didn't look so bad,'' Steelers punter Dan Sepulveda said. ''But when you're out there, it's unbelievable.''

No, it looked bad on TV, too.

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin often talks about splash plays - big plays that make a major difference in a game - but every play on this rainy night in Pittsburgh was a splash play.

Perhaps the Steelers should have followed the advice given on the Web site for the company that provided the new sod: ''During the first three weeks, avoid heavily or concentrated use of your new yard. This gives the roots an opportunity to firmly knit with the soil and insures that the turf will remain smooth.''

A three-hour pounding by 22 athletes, who weigh an average of 250 pounds or so, likely constitutes heavy usage.

The Steelers have had ongoing turf problems since Heinz Field opened in 2001, replacing the grass three times during the 2002 season. None of those were quite this bad.

Now, the question is whether this game - a national embarrassment to one of the NFL's most successful and well-run franchises - will push them to install artificial turf.

''We have to look at those options and we will,'' coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday. ''I'm not concerned about it right now. The field we have here is the field we have.''

With the Steelers (8-3) staying at home Sunday to play the Bengals (4-7), an NFL official will remain in Pittsburgh this week to monitor the field.

Books have the Steelers listed as 7-point favorites in this game

On Tuesday afternoon, it was still chewed up, with several long sideline-to-sideline strips of brown turf caused when rain water gushed through the seams of the protective tarps laid atop the field.

However, the Steelers apparently do not plan to replace this sod with more new sod.


''The field conditions were less than satisfactory for playing the Monday night football game,'' team president Art Rooney II said Tuesday in a statement. ''We consulted with the NFL prior to laying down new sod and our grounds crew did the best it could under the circumstances.

''Unfortunately, we were faced with the worst possible weather conditions and we acknowledge that it did have an impact on the playing surface. We will continue to work with the NFL game operations people this week as our grounds crew works to improve the conditions of the field in time for Sunday night's game.''

Perhaps the surprise is some Steelers players still do not want artificial turf, even though it would allow more events to be staged at Heinz Field.

''No, you can't simulate grass,'' Ward said. ''That FieldTurf (used in the Steelers' indoor practice building) is still turf. Guys fall on it and it can get hard. You can still get a concussion. Players around here, if you ask them, even if it was pretty bad (Monday), we will stick with grass.''

Tomlin didn't think the bad field was a big deal, even though the turf was clearly the culprit in one of the lowest-scoring games in NFL history. It was the first time since a Lions-Giants scoreless tie in 1943 that an NFL game went to the final minute without any scoring.

''It's football, man, it's an outdoor game,'' Tomlin said. ''It is played as you move into December. Everybody loved to play dirty football when you were a kid. What else is new? Guys had a great time, it created some adversity and we overcame it and found a way to win the game.''

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I think all Stadiums should be switched over to field turf

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Tennesee -4 over Houston
San Diego +4.5 at KC
Philadelphia -3 over seattle
New Orleans -3 over Tampa
Im adding Arizona -1 to this list 165 to win 150

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Tennesee -4 over Houston
San Diego -4.5 at KC
Philadelphia -3 over seattle
New Orleans -3 over Tampa
Im adding Arizona -1 to this list 165 to win 150

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[quote author=coachmarc link=topic=55116.msg66089#msg66089 date=1196133795]
Tennesee -4 over Houston
San Diego -4.5 at KC
Philadelphia -3 over seattle
New Orleans -3 over Tampa
Im adding Arizona -1 to this list 165 to win 150
Washington -6.5 Im chasing a bit but I have to take it
All of these plays are 165 to win 150 each

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