ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) - Ball State coach Brady Hoke said he and Michigan athletic director Bill Martin have discussed the Wolverines' open coaching job, but it wasn't a formal interview.
Hoke was an assistant to Michigan coach Lloyd Carr in 1995-2001. Carr announced Nov. 19 that he was retiring after 13 seasons.
``I did have a conversation with Bill a couple of weeks ago of substance about interest on both ends of it, but that's as far as it's gone,'' Hoke told The Ann Arbor News for a story on its Web site Wednesday.
Hoke said he also has had some contact with Washington State, where coach Bill Doba resigned at season's end. Hoke and Doba are Ball State alumni.
Others coaches whose names have been mentioned for the Michigan job include Wake Forest's Jim Grobe, California's Jeff Tedford, Missouri's Gary Pinkel and North Carolina State's Tom O'Brien.
Rutgers coach Greg Schiano, widely rumored to be on Martin's list, said he is not talking to anyone about job openings.
Carr's final game comes New Year's Day, when Michigan (8-4) faces No. 9 Florida (9-3) in the Capital One Bowl in Orlando, Fla.
Carr is 121-40 for a .752 winning percentage, seventh among active coaches.

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