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College Football Betting News and Notes Thursday 11/8

College Football Betting News and Notes Thursday 11/8

FLORIDA ST (8 - 1) at VIRGINIA TECH (4 - 5) - 11/8/2012, 7:30 PM

Top Trends for this game.
VIRGINIA TECH is 15-5 ATS (+9.5 Units) after 2 or more consecutive straight up losses since 1992.
VIRGINIA TECH is 6-16 ATS (-11.6 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
VIRGINIA TECH is 3-14 ATS (-12.4 Units) when playing with 6 or less days rest over the last 2 seasons.
VIRGINIA TECH is 6-15 ATS (-10.5 Units) in games played on a grass field over the last 2 seasons.
VIRGINIA TECH is 6-16 ATS (-11.6 Units) in all lined games over the last 2 seasons.

Head-to-Head Series History
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-0 against the spread versus FLORIDA ST over the last 3 seasons
VIRGINIA TECH is 1-0 straight up against FLORIDA ST over the last 3 seasons
1 of 1 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons

LA MONROE (6 - 3) at ARKANSAS ST (6 - 3) - 11/8/2012, 7:00 PM

Top Trends for this game.
LA MONROE is 30-15 ATS (+13.5 Units) in road games against conference opponents since 1992.

Head-to-Head Series History
ARKANSAS ST is 2-0 against the spread versus LA MONROE over the last 3 seasons
ARKANSAS ST is 2-0 straight up against LA MONROE over the last 3 seasons
1 of 2 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL over the last 3 seasons


The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Louisiana-Monroe's last 6 games when playing Arkansas State
Louisiana-Monroe is 5-1 SU in its last 6 games on the road
Arkansas State is 5-1 SU in its last 6 games when playing at home against Louisiana-Monroe
Arkansas State is 5-1 SU in its last 6 games

The total has gone OVER in 5 of Florida State's last 6 games when playing Virginia Tech
Florida State is 4-2 SU in its last 6 games when playing Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech is 2-8-1 ATS in its last 11 games
Virginia Tech is 1-4 SU in its last 5 games

Florida State at Virginia Tech
Florida State: 9-21 ATS away off 3+ conference games
Virginia Tech: 15-5 ATS off BB losses

Louisiana Monroe at Arkansas State
LA Monroe: 15-3 ATS as a road underdog of 7 points or less
Arkansas State: 4-16 ATS off BB games committing 1 or 0 turnovers

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Florida State at Virginia Tech
By Joe Nelson

Thursday night football is back in the ACC this week with highly ranked Florida State visiting Virginia Tech. These teams met in the 2010 ACC Championship game and many expected they would meet in this year’s conference championship game but it has been a disappointing season for Virginia Tech. The Hokies should be up for this game against a top 10 team however as the Hokies play on a second consecutive Thursday night. Take a look at this week’s Thursday night matchup and the history between these teams.

Matchup: Florida State Seminoles at Virginia Tech Hokies
Venue: Lane Stadium, Blacksburg, Virginia
Date: Thursday, November 8, 2012
Time/TV: 7:30 PM ET – ESPN
Line: Florida State -14½, Over/Under 51½
Last Meeting: 2010, Virginia Tech (-3½) 44-33 (ACC Championship in Charlotte, NC)

The Seminoles were a popular national title pick this season with a veteran team returning on both sides of the ball and a schedule that featured few significant hurdles. The early season schedule was extremely light but the Seminoles did pull away from Clemson impressively in a big national game at the time in September. Two weeks later Florida State was stunned by a late North Carolina State comeback however and any goals of a national title went out the window.

Florida State ranks 10th in the latest BCS standings and with four undefeated teams and five SEC teams sitting ahead of them, there is very little hope for a title game shot even if there is chaos in the final few weeks with upsets. Florida State is likely to continue a slow climb towards the top tier however as the remaining schedule will provide a boost. Winning the ACC championship game would provide a spot in the Orange Bowl so there is still plenty to play for. Florida State won the initial ACC Championship game against Virginia Tech back in 2005 but the Seminoles have not won that title since and surprisingly have only won the ACC Atlantic division twice in seven years.

Overall only six teams gain more yards per game than Florida State on offense but the statistics were padded with two FCS opponents on the schedule early in the year. Florida State is also the third highest scoring team in the nation with 44.8 points per game. Much of the offensive statistics are staggeringly impressive but one one-point loss will knock you out of the hunt in the current college football landscape.
Florida State quarterback E.J. Manuel has delivered a very strong senior season with 70 percent completions through the 8-1 start for the Seminoles. He appeared on pace to possibly enter the Heisman Trophy conversation after his big game against Clemson but he struggled in the loss to NC State and has not had the yardage nor touchdown counts to be more than a fringe candidate at this point.

The Seminoles were also dealt a tough blow with leading rusher Chris Thompson suffering a knee injury in late October. Sophomores James Wilder and Devonta Freeman have capably picked up the load and Florida State is the 14th best rushing team in the nation with nearly 237 yards per game on average. Only Oregon gains more yards per rushing attempt than Florida State.

On defense only Alabama and Notre Dame have allowed fewer points per game and Florida State has the top ranked defense in terms of yards allowed per game, allowing a stunning 3.49 yards per play and just 227.1 yards per game, both numbers that edge Alabama or LSU. The schedule has certainly been weak for the Seminoles however and in the game against Clemson the defense certainly showed some vulnerability. Florida State dominated a Duke team that could still win the Coastal division in its last game, winning 48-7 despite a 0-4 turnover deficit. That was homecoming for the Seminoles but being off last weekend should have the Seminoles ready to play and impress in the national spotlight.

When the schedule was set and this game was lined up for a Thursday night ESPN game the expectation was that this could be an ACC championship preview featuring two teams that could be highly ranked in the national title conversation. Virginia Tech is going through its worst season in perhaps 20 years however. Virginia Tech has not lost more than five games since 1992 and only twice in that span did they lose as many as they have already lost this season sitting at 4-5. The Hokies will be heavy favorites in the final two games of the season but if they lose tonight 6-6 and a marginal bowl game is the best case scenario.

Virginia Tech returned nine starters from a defense that allowed just over 17 points per game and 305 yards per game last season so there were high expectations entering 2012. Virginia Tech lost badly to Clemson in the ACC Championship game last season but this was an 11-3 team that also out-played Michigan in the Sugar Bowl in a 23-30 overtime loss. Virginia Tech has been in a BCS bowl game four of the last five seasons but they currently sit fifth out of six in the ACC Coastal standings.

Turnovers can be pointed to as a huge factor in the decline as the Hokies are -5 on the season in turnover margin, coming from a program that is accustomed to making big plays on defense and special teams. Virginia Tech has not finished a season with a negative turnover differential since 2003 and they were only -1 that year. The reputation for being ball hawks on defense is well earned as Virginia Tech has been +9 or better in six of the last eight seasons.

Junior quarterback Logan Thomas has been a big part of the problem accounting for 12 interceptions and several fumbles. Thomas is duel threat, rushing for 469 yards last season and leading the team with 422 yards so far this season but he has regressed in the passing game. Thomas completed nearly 60 percent of his passes last season and is at barely over 53 percent this season. He has already thrown more interceptions this season than last year and he is only one sack short of last season’s 14 game total.

The receiving corps lost the top two receivers from last season and only returned one player that had more than three catches last season so there have been some growing pains. The top two receivers for the Hokies had 60 or more catches last season and this year the only veteran receiver Marcus Davis leads the team with only 36 catches in nine games. Losing Davis Wilson in the backfield has also been a problem as freshman J.C. Coleman leads the team in rushing this season behind Thomas but he is not an every down back.

On both sides of the ball Virginia Tech has rather average team numbers and with the turnovers it is not a surprise that the Hokies have struggled. Four of the five losses have come by double-digit margins however as Virginia Tech enters this game coming off back-to-back losses by big margins in ACC road games. Virginia Tech is a perfect 4-0 (2-2 ATS) at home this season however as all five losses have come in road or neutral settings. Virginia Tech will be up for this game but they will need to play its best and come up with a few big plays to have a shot at the upset.

Line Movement: Florida State opened as a -13½-point favorite and after some back-and-forth to 14 the line eventually jumped to 14½ on Tuesday. The total has opened at 51½.

Last Meeting: At the end of the 2010 season these teams met in the ACC Championship game. They did not play in the regular season that year and Virginia Tech was a slight favorite sitting at 10-2 and a perfect 8-0 in ACC games. The Hokies had opened the season 0-2; losing to Boise State and FCS James Madison, but then reeled off 11 straight wins including beating the Seminoles in that game in Charlotte. Florida State quarterback Christian Ponder missed this game with an elbow injury as now starter E.J. Manuel played fairly well despite two interceptions including one returned for a pick-six early in the game. Virginia Tech pulled away in the second half after leading by just four at halftime and eventually won 44-33 with seven points for Florida State coming in the final seconds.

Series History: These teams have not been conference rivals for long as this is just the third regular season meeting as ACC foes with the home team winning and covering in both of those instances (2007 & 2008). Four of the last six meetings between these teams have been in neutral site games with the most famous meeting being the 2000 Sugar Bowl in which Florida State eventually won 46-29, but Virginia Tech behind Michael Vick led 29-28 going into the 4th quarter. Florida State won the national championship at 12-0 with the victory. The Seminoles are 9-2 straight up and 6-5 ATS vs. Virginia Tech since 1980.

Florida State Historical Trends: Florida State is 5-8 ATS as a road favorite under Jimbo Fisher including losing SU in four of those 12 games. Going back to 2004 Florida State is on an 11-16 ATS run as a road favorite including going 2-9 ATS as a favorite of 10 or more but less than 21 points. Since 2004 Florida State is just 19-28 ATS as a favorite of 10 or more points in any venue but they are 12-11 in that role since 2010 under Fisher.

Virginia Tech Historical Trends: Since 1987 when Frank Beamer took over the Hokies, Virginia Tech has been a home underdog just 22 times. The Hokies are 15-6-1 ATS in those games including winning outright eight times. Most of the instances have been as a small underdog in recent years as only twice since 1990 has Virginia Tech been a home underdog of 10 or more. The biggest home underdog spread for the Hokies that resulted in a SU win was a 13-7 win over Miami as a 9½-point underdog. Virginia Tech is 11-1-1 ATS in the last 13 games as a home underdog going back to late 1990. Virginia Tech has been an underdog of 10 or more eight times since 1993, going 0-8 S/U and 3-5 ATS.

There is an additional game Thursday night this week:

UL-Monroe at Arkansas State
Line: Arkansas State -7, Over/Under 59

The race in the Sun Belt has turned very interesting with three teams tied at 4-1, with these two teams among the group at the top. Louisiana-Monroe had been the conference’s most impressive team in the early season with the big win over Arkansas and playing tight with Auburn and Baylor. Last week the Warhawks were destroyed at home however, losing by 16 and out-gained by 200 yards against rival Louisiana-Lafayette for their first Sun Belt loss. Losing quarterback Kolton Browning to injury certainly was a factor and he is not expected back this week with a foot injury. Arkansas State has quietly won four in a row including three of four on the road in conference play. Arkansas State won 24-19 in a tight game in this match-up last season and while few expected the Red Wolves would be in the running to repeat as Sun Belt champions, 1st year head coach Gus Malzahn has his team right there. Statistically these teams mirror each other though Red Wolves are the superior rushing team.

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Florida State at Virginia Tech: What Bettors Need to Know

Florida State Seminoles at Virginia Tech Hokies (+14.5, 51.5)

Florida State is homing in on its first ACC Atlantic Division title in seven years. Standing in the sixth-ranked Seminoles' way next is a team they’ve grown accustomed to fighting with for conference supremacy - at least up until this season. The well-rested Seminoles travel to Blacksburg on Thursday night to face struggling rival Virginia Tech in a contest loaded with ACC title game implications.

Florida State throttled Duke 48-7 prior to taking a week off. Now, the Seminoles need to win their final two conference games to secure a berth in the ACC championship game and a shot at their first BCS bowl appearance since 2005. Meanwhile, Virginia Tech’s chances at reaching the ACC title game were dealt a blow with an embarrassing 30-12 loss to Miami last Thursday. This is only the third regular-season ACC contest between the teams. In the most recent meeting, Virginia Tech prevailed 44-33 in the 2010 ACC championship game.

LINE: Florida State opened at -13 and has been bet up to -14.5. The total is set at 51.5.

WEATHER: The forecast is calling for clear skies and temperatures in the mid 30s. Winds are expected to blow NW at 9 mph.

ABOUT FLORIDA STATE (8-1, 5-1 ACC, 3-5 ATS): The Seminoles are the only team in the nation ranked in the top 10 in offense (seventh, 524.5 yards per game) and defense (first, 227.1). Florida State's explosive offense scored on the third play from scrimmage against Duke as E.J. Manuel hit Rashad Greene for a 71-yard touchdown and led 31-0 after 20 minutes. Devonta Freeman and sophomore James Wilder Jr., the duo helping replace Chris Thompson (torn ACL), combined for 174 yards and three touchdowns on 25 carries. Meanwhile, the defense, led by All-American candidate DT Bjoern Werner (eight sacks on the season), allowed only 232 yards.

ABOUT VIRGINIA TECH (4-5, 2-3 ACC, 2-7 ATS): The Hokies have lost two straight and four of their last five after a forgettable showing against Miami. Virginia Tech outgained Miami by nearly 100 yards (421-347) and ran 24 more plays (82-58), but lost because it managed only two field goals in four red zone trips. Even the special teams, a staple of Frank Beamer-coached squads, were outplayed. Miami blocked a punt, which led to a score. Offensively, quarterback Logan Thomas (19-of-37, 199 yards, two interceptions versus Miami) has regressed and, as a result, the Hokies are a middling 69th in scoring offense (27.1 points) and 91st in turnover margin (minus-.56).


* Over is 4-0 in the last four meetings.
* Home team is 5-1 ATS in their last six meetings.
* Favorite is 4-1 ATS in their last five meetings.


1. Said Seminoles coach Jimbo Fisher, on playing in Blacksburg: “It’s a great challenge. That’s a very tough environment, hostile environment.” Florida State lost during its only trip there in 2007.

2. The Hokies need to win two of their final three games to avoid missing out on a bowl game for the first time in 20 years.

3. The Seminoles, who beat Virginia Tech for the 2000 national title, also knocked off the Hokies in the first ACC title game in 2005.

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Eight Things Bettors Should Know About UL Monroe-Arkansas State

Louisiana Monroe Warhawks at  Arkansas State Red Wolves (6.5, 59)

The line: UL Monroe opened as a 6-point favorite, but bettors quickly moved the line up to 6.5 and 7 at a couple of books.

- Whoever wins this game will control its own destiny in the Sun Belt. UL Monroe and Arkansas State are both in a three-way tie atop the conference with Middle Tennessee but UL Monroe already beat the Blue Raiders and Arkansas State faces them in the last game of the season.

- The Warhawks are 4-0 against the spread on the road and the Red Wolves are 1-3 ATS at home.

- Louisiana Monroe lost its starting quarterback and star Kolton Browning last game against Louisiana Lafayette. Browning led the conference in all purpose yards heading into last week’s game. It’s an unspecified leg injury but he won’t be back this week. Cody Wells was so-so filling in with 209 passing yards and two TDs last week, but he threw two picks and the Warhawks lost their first Sun Belt game 40-24.

- Depth is a serious issue for ULM right now. “We have seven very good players on the sideline with me right now (due to injuries),” said head coach Todd Berry at his weekly press conference. “I’m not making excuses. I think our guys are stepping up pretty well, but our lack of depth is showing right now. It showed in that game.” Berry went on to say the Warhawks had an “inability to get ourselves off the field defensively” against ULL and “we didn’t sustain some drives offensively, especially with the changes that were going on.”

- Warhawks wide receiver Brent Leonard leads the Sun Belt in receiving.

- Arkansas State has the third-best pass efficiency defense in the Sun Belt. UL Monroe nipped the best pass efficiency defense, 43-42, in OT (Western Kentucky) and lost to the second best (ULL).

- The Red Wolves are terrible on special teams. They are the worst in the Sun Belt in kickoff returns (18.33 yard average) and net punting (30.7 yard average).

- The Warhawks started the season 5-0 ATS and since that time are 1-3 against the spread.

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NCAAF Week 11

This is first regular season Florida State-Virginia Tech game since 2008; Hokies (-3.5) beat FSU 44-33 in ACC title game two years ago, but this is worst season Tech has had in over a decade, losing four of its last five games, with seven turnovers, 29 points in last two. Over last 11 years, Tech is 3-0 vs spread when a home dog. Since '06, Florida State is 8-11 as road favorites, 5-5 under Fisher, 0-3 this year; all ix of their I-A wins are by 12+ points; they even had 16-0 halftime lead in their only loss, at NC State. Seminoles outscored last three foes 57-10 in second half. ACC home underdogs are 7-7 vs spread in conference play. Four of last five Seminole games stayed under the total.

UL-Monroe QB Browning left last week's game with some kind of leg injury (ULM ain't saying), never returned, isn't listed on depth chart for this game, so assume he is out, big blow for Warhawk squad headed for its winning season at I-A level. ULM is 4-0 vs spread on road this year, 4-0 as an underdog with two SU wins- they won SU at Arkansas, but were just 2-11 in 3rd down last week with Browning sitting out most of game. ASU is 0-3 as home favorite this year, after being 7-2 last couple seasons; they've won last four games (3-1 vs spread), scoring 39.3 ppg. Sun Belt home favorites are 3-14 vs spread in conference play this year. Seven of nine ULM games this season went over the total.

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