Thursday Night Football

Thursday Night Football

Florida State Seminoles vs. North Carolina State Wolfpack

Oddsmakers currently have the Seminoles listed as 11-point favorites versus the Wolfpack, while the game's total is sitting at 48.

Antone Smith rushed for 91 yards on 28 carries with four touchdowns to lead Florida State past Miami-FL 41-39 in Week 6.

Florida State cashed as 2.5-point road underdogs as the teams played over the 44.5-point total posted by oddsmakers.

Russell Wilson threw for 209 yards and one touchdown for North Carolina State in a 38-31 loss to Boston College in Week 6.

The Wolfpack covered the 7.5-point spread, while the combined score played OVER the day's posted total of 42.5.

Current streak:
Florida State has won 2 straight games.
North Carolina State has lost 2 straight games.

Team records:
Florida State: 4-1 SU, 2-1 ATS
North Carolina State: 2-4 SU, 3-2 ATS

Florida State most recently:
When playing in October are 5-5
When playing on grass are 6-4
After outgaining opponent are 6-4
When playing within the conference are 5-5

North Carolina State most recently:
When playing in October are 4-6
When playing on grass are 5-5
After being outgained are 4-6
When playing within the conference are 3-7

A few trends to consider:
The total has gone OVER in 5 of Florida State's last 6 games on the road
Florida State is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games
The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Florida State's last 6 games when playing North Carolina State
Florida State is 2-4 SU in its last 6 games on the road
North Carolina State is 6-1 ATS in its last 7 games when playing Florida State
The total has gone UNDER in 4 of North Carolina State's last 6 games when playing Florida State
North Carolina State is 2-6 SU in its last 8 games

Next up:
Florida State home to Virginia Tech, Saturday, October 25
North Carolina State at Maryland, Saturday, October 25


BYU Cougars vs. TCU Horned Frogs

Max Hall threw for 258 yards as BYU ran over New Mexico 21-3 in Week 7. BYU could not cover the 23.5-point spread, and the 24 points went well UNDER the posted total of 48.

Hall completed 22-of-34 with three touchdowns in leading BYU. Andrew George caught two TD passes in the win.

Joseph Turner and Aaron Brown each had rushing touchdowns to lead TCU past Colorado State 13-7 in Week 7.

Texas Christian couldn't cover as 13-point road favorites as the game played under the 49.5-point total listed by oddsmakers.

Current streak:
BYU has won 6 straight games.
TCU has won 2 straight games.

Team records:
BYU: 6-0 SU, 2-3 ATS
TCU: 6-1 SU, 4-2 ATS

BYU most recently:
When playing in October are 9-1
When playing on grass are 10-0
After outgaining opponent are 10-0
When playing within the conference are 10-0

TCU most recently:
When playing in October are 7-3
When playing on grass are 8-2
After outgaining opponent are 7-3
When playing within the conference are 7-3

A few trends to consider:
BYU is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games on the road
BYU is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games
BYU is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games when playing TCU
TCU is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games at home
TCU is 9-1 SU in its last 10 games
TCU is 1-4 SU in its last 5 games when playing BYU

Next up:
BYU home to UNLV, Saturday, October 25
TCU home to Wyoming, Saturday, October 25

Blade
useravatar
Offline
221257 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

What bettors need to know: BYU at TCU
By CHRIS MARAKOVITZ

Head-to-head

TCU is 2-5 all-time against BYU and has lost the last two. Last year the Horned Frogs lost but covered, falling 27-22 as a 7.5-point dog.

BYU has won three of four meetings at TCU’s Amon Carter Stadium. Their 2006 win at TCU is one of four losses for the Frogs in their last 32 home games.

Streak on the line


BYU comes in with a 16-game win streak, longest in the nation.

They have not lost since September of 2007 against Tulsa.

Max offense

BYU wins with offense and the leader of that offense is QB Max Hall. Hall has amassed 1852 passing yards and 20 TDs. He is 17-2 as a starter and has tossed at least two TDs in eight straight games.

An emerging target for Hall has been WR Austin Collie. Collie has eight TD receptions in the last five games.

Stingy Frogs

TCU wins with defense, a unit that many consider to be among the best in the nation. The Frogs have held five of seven opponents to seven points or less. They are No. 9 in scoring defense (11.4 points per game), No. 1 in total defense (207.4 yards per game) and No. 1 in rushing defense (20.7 yards per game).

On Saturday they held Colorado State to 199 total yards and just 11 yards rushing on 17 carries.

Only the vaunted Oklahoma Sooner attack has put up more than 14 points on the Horned Frog defense.

Offensive struggles on Saturday

Both teams won in less than impressive fashion on Saturday, gutting out tough wins despite not bringing their best performances.

TCU relied heavily on their defense to deliver a 13-7 win against Colorado State, a game in which the Frogs were largely ineffective on offense.

BYU struggled on offense as well, trailing early to New Mexico and benefiting from a bad call that brought back a Lobo TD that would have made the score 14-10 with seven minutes left.

Despite hanging on for the win, BYU was only 4-of-12 on third down conversions, making them 13-for-29 in their last games.

Murky status for Horned Frog QB

TCU has played the last two games without starting QB Andy Dalton, who was injured against Oklahoma. While Marcus Jackson is an experienced backup and has done a respectable job filling in, the team hopes to have Dalton back on Thursday. Latest word is that Dalton has been practicing and “could” be back for the BYU game.

Line moves

The line opened with BYU as a 2-point favorite, jumped briefly to 2.5 before coming down to 1.5. Since then, the line went down to even, jumped back up to 1.5 and then returned to even where it currently stands.

The over/under opened at 47 and has not moved.

Blade
useravatar
Offline
221257 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

Double Dip
By Christian Alexander

While it was good to kick my two-game losing streak, you sure hate to see someone lose their job in the process. However, there was simply no way coach Tommy Bowden could continue at Clemson after consistently failing to live up to expectations.

The 12-7 loss last Thursday night to Wake Forest was just another example of a game that the Tigers had no reason to lose, yet came out on the short end. In the big business of college football these days – especially at a school with high expectations like Clemson – it doesn’t take many games like that to put a coach in hot water.

With that said, I’m not going to lose too much sleep over coach Bowden’s fate. After all, due to the generosity of Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips, Bowden will get paid for the rest of this season plus receive a very nice parting gift: a $3.5 million buyout. Not too shabby considering the tough economic times we’re in.

With a mini one-game winning streak in hand, it’s time to turn the page to this Thursday and get ready for a double-header. Instead of focusing on one game, I’m going to touch on both and have a play on each game available in my pick pack.
   
Florida State (4-1, 1-1 ACC) at N.C. State (2-4, 0-2 ACC)
Thursday, October 16
7:30 PM ESPN
Carter-Finley Stadium (Natural Grass)
Sports.com Line: Florida State -11, O/U 48

Certainly a strange feeling for the Florida State coaches leading up to this one. Not only do you have the aforementioned drama with coach Bobby Bowden’s son getting fired but there is also the return of Chuck Amato to Raleigh.

As you probably remember, Amato was the long-time assistant at FSU who was finally lured back to his alma mater, N.C. State, to take over as the head coach in 2000.

With Amato at the helm, the Wolfpack – usually in the role of the underdog – had some classic games against the ‘Noles and often came out on top, winning three times, including twice in Tallahassee.

But success against FSU alone couldn’t keep Amato employed and a 3-9 season in 2006 – one that included a 24-20 win over the Seminoles - spelled doom for the coach.

Florida State quickly brought him back to Tallahassee as the linebackers coach and this Thursday will be his trip back to Raleigh since he was fired from N.C. State.

The question is, can the Wolfpack revive some of that magic they often conjured up against the Seminoles with Amato on the sideline?

They certainly couldn’t last season as the Seminoles thumped N.C. State 27-10 at home, reversing a trend that had seen FSU drop four of the last six to the Wolfpack.

Florida St. comes into this game with momentum on its side after a hard fought 41-39 win against Miami in a driving rainstorm. The Seminoles are hopeful the victory was a sign of things to come from an offense that has struggled at times this season.

If QB Christian Ponder and RB Antone Smith are on top of their game, FSU will be hard to beat.

To keep FSU’s offense in check, N.C. State coach Tom O'Brien is hoping LB Nate Irving will be able to play. Irving – one of the ACC’s premier playmakers - has missed the last two games with an ankle injury and will likely be a game-time decision.

Of course, defense is just half of the equation and as such, the Wolfpack know they must be productive on offense to have a chance. That responsibility will likely fall to a pair of RBs, Jamelle Eugene and Andre Brown, in addition to freshman QB Russell Wilson. That trio will definitely be tested by the speed of the FSU defense.

The Seminoles are 2-1 ATS to date, while the Wolfpack are 3-2.

#9 BYU (6-0, 2-0 Mountain West) at Texas Christian (6-1, 3-0 Mountain West)
Thursday, October 16
8:00 PM ESPN
Amon G. Carter Stadium (Natural Grass)
Sports.com Line: PK, O/U 45

It’s been quite a while since BYU tasted defeat. The Cougars’ win last weekend against New Mexico extended the longest winning streak in the nation to 16 games, giving BYU a chance to move to 7-0 for the first time since 2001.

To do so, the ninth-ranked Cougars will have to win on the road and against one of the top defenses in the nation. TCU is No. 1 in the nation in total defense at 207.4 yards per game and is only allowing a ridiculously low 20.7 ypg on the ground so far. The Horned Frogs have held five of its seven opponents thus far in 2008 to seven points or fewer. The Oklahoma Sooners were the only team to score more than 14 points against TCU.

However, if any team has the offense to put a dent in the Horned Frogs, it’s BYU. Under the direction of QB Max Hall, the Cougars are averaging 38 points a game. Hall is 17-2 as a starter and has thrown at least two TDs in each of his last eight games while racking up 1,852 passing yards and 20 touchdowns so far in 2008. There is little doubt that Hall will look early and often to Austin Collie, a junior receiver who has eight is touchdowns in his last five games.

Coach Gary Patterson and TCU can’t match that type of talent on offense but hope that their stingy defense and the return of QB Andy Dalton will spell success. Dalton hasn't played since his right knee injury on September 27 against Oklahoma but has returned to practice and is hoping to suit up this Thursday night.

The two teams have squared off seven times over the years with BYU walking away a winner in five of those games, including three of four at Amon G. Carter Stadium.

BYU is just 2-3 so far this season against the spread while the Horned Frogs have been much more profitable for players with a 4-2 mark against the number.

VegasInsider.com

Blade
useravatar
Offline
221257 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

Thursday Night Football: BYU at TCU
by Matt Severance

There are two Division I college games on Thursday night, but only one truly has national meaning - so, even though the Florida State-NC State game will be televised nationally on ESPN, it's the Brigham Young and Texas Christian Mountain West matchup that has the better storylines.

The No. 9 Cougars (6-0, 2-0 MWC) have the nation's longest winning streak at 16 and have won 18-straight conference games, also is tops in the country. And they have their eyes on a BCS bowl, yet they aren't even favored against the unranked Horned Frogs (6-1, 3-0), as the game is a 'pick'em' on SBGGlobal.

Perhaps that's because TCU's only loss came at Oklahoma and that it has held five of its opponents to seven points or fewer, with only the Sooners scoring more than 14. The Horned Frogs rank ninth in the nation in scoring defense with 11.4 points allowed per game and No. 1 in the nation in total defense (207.4 yards per game), in rushing defense (20.7 ypg), in total sacks (27) and average first downs allowed per game (10.6).

"We've been talking about the BYU game since last January," Frogs coach Gary Patterson said. "They are the team that has won the conference the last two seasons, so that has to be the mileage marker where you set your sights."

BYU has one of the nation's best offenses behind junior QB Max Hall, who is 17-2 in his career and led a 27-22 win over the Horned Frogs last year. Hall is hitting on 70.7 percent of his completions for 1,845 yards and 20 TDs to go with only four interceptions as the Cougars rank No. 8 in the country in passing. He has at least two TD passes in his past eight games.

"I have to be on top of my game," Hall said of the Frogs, who play a 4-2-5 alignment designed to get pressure on the QB. "They're just mixing it up and bringing blitzes from different areas and disguising what they're trying to do."

That BYU offense has been trending downward lately, however. Since scoring 59 points in a rout over UCLA, the Cougars' offensive output has declined in each successive week against Wyoming (44), Utah State (34) and New Mexico (21); the 21 vs. the Lobos was a season-low for BYU.

Surprisingly, the Cougars rank second in the nation in scoring defense (10.7 ppg), and coach Bronco Mendenhall said the key has been BYU's ability to create turnovers: The Cougars are second in Division I in fumbles forced with 12.

The over/under for Thursday's game is 46.

Meanwhile, TCU's Patterson still hasn't named a starter at quarterback for Thursday's game, but Andy Dalton, who has missed the past two games with a right knee injury, has been working mostly with the first team during practice this week. Regardless, Patterson wants to run the ball all night to keep that potent BYU offense off the field.

The TCU-BYU winner has won the Mountain West each of the past three seasons, and the Cougars won their last trip to Fort Worth, 31-17, on Sept. 28, 2006, which is one of only four home losses for TCU in its past 32 games.

In their last two losses to BYU, the Frogs have been down 14-3 and 17-3 in 2007 and 2006, respectively. That can't happen again Thursday.

"I don't think you want to do that against BYU," Patterson said. "It has to be a close ballgame going into the fourth quarter."

Docsports.com

Blade
useravatar
Offline
221257 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

College Football Thursday
By IndianCowboy

Florida State vs. NC State

ACC Battle here. Note, that this line opened up at -10 as FSU is visiting NC State and has risen up to -11. The total has remained steady at 48. Over 56% are in fact favoring the home dog here in NC State on a weekday night football. This game is on ESPN and you can actually get NC State on the ML at +330 if you'd like and FSU on the ML is around -420 this morning. FSU Stands at 4-1 while NC State is 2-4 and note that both teams are positive ATS wise as FSU this year is 2-1 ATS while NC State is 3-2 ATS. Although Ponder has thrown for 6 picks, he has down surprisingly well as he has thrown for 7 touchdowns and it seems that this team is riding him for the rest of the season after lack of production from Weatherford. The home team has won the last 2 times these 2 teams have met. FSU won 27-10 last year but NC State covered the 18 point road spread they faced and NC State won 24-20 at home the year before that. NC State is 6-0-1 ATS in this series the last 7 times these 2 teams have met. Harrison Beck and Russell Wilson have both thrown for over 500 yards for NC State but Wilson's stats are considerably better when looking at touchdowns to interceptions. Russell has thrown for 4 touchdowns and 1 pick while Beck has thrown for 2 touchdowns and 6 picks. FSU comes off back to back covers after they dismantled Colorado at home 39-21 easily covering the -6.5 and defeated Miami 41-39 on the road despite a furious come back for the Hurricanes. NC State has lost back to back games including getting spanked 10-41 at home to South Florida only to lose by a touchdowns to BC at home. They have lost back to back games.

BYU vs. TCU

There is a lot of interesting things going on in this game. For starters, BYU is playing for a BCS Bowl Birth and TCU is one of the few competent teams that stands in their way. The line which opened up for BYU as a -1.5 favorite with around 65% of the public on them has now gone down to a pick-em in most places despite most of the public on BYU. In fact, there are places now where you will find BYU as the Underdog. Note, that the Quarterback for TCU Dalton is questionable for this game. Even with that, the line has significantly and still moves toward TCU. BYU beat this team 27-22 last year in a hard fought game at home which TCU covered the touchdown spread on the road. Folks talk about BYU's great winning streak thus far as they have won their last 10+ games including being ranked 8th in the nation. But, did you know that TCU has won 9 of its last 10 games? Heck, this team beat New Mexico on the road 26-3. This team is also 6-3 ATS over its last 10 and has defeated other teams at home 41-7 (San Diego State), Stanford 31-14 and won on the road decisively at SMU and gave Oklahoma a bit of a fight before being overwhelmed. Having said that, BYU continues to roll comfortably with Max Hall behind the helm having thrown for 20 touchdowns and 4 interceptions. Look, I can't make this an official pick for me for a couple of reasons including not knowing how the quarterback stands for TCU. But, let me ask you something. What has BYU proved on the road? Barley defeating Washington in a controversial game on the road is their only pad to success on the highway - Utah State does not count. It's not an official play, but I'm rolling with TCU as my comp play today as they are 4-0 ATS when playing teams with a winning road record and 4-1 ATS coming off an ATS loss.

Blade
useravatar
Offline
221257 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

I think I like BYU here as a PK, what do you guys think?

Michael Cash
77% Avoid Me
useravatar
Offline
6551 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

I have read alot about how the Noles are not what they used to be and I agree with that statement but when they say "look at the 12-3 loss to WAKE"  keep in mind they were still missing 8 starters for that game. I think they will roll tonight!! I hope history doesnt repeat because I do recall some guy named TORRY HOLT with over 200yds on a Thursday night game in the mid 90's beating my noles!! lol

Take the noles!!

NOLE_RIDER
useravatar
Offline
22 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

I am not sure I can take advice on the Seminoles from someone whose username is Noles Rider  ;D

I are you sure you aren't a little biased my friend?  wink

Michael Cash
77% Avoid Me
useravatar
Offline
6551 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

Great Point Mike,
This is the wrong place to making promises..lol..

I will stay away from the MIGHTY NOLES myself and hope I get some good advice for the BYU/TCU best bet tonight.. Any suggestions?

NOLE_RIDER
useravatar
Offline
22 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

I like BYU myself. Line opened at BYU -2 and already moved 3 points to make them a +1 -1.5 point dog. Public is all over them at 74% but I still think it will be the best bet of the night

Michael Cash
77% Avoid Me
useravatar
Offline
6551 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

If NC State goes up by a TD or even a field goal, the Noles won't cover.  These ACC battles are often close and the Noles are not the type of team to back here on the road on Thursday night.  It's easy to see how the Wolfpack will cover and maybe even win this game in front of the home crowd in the prime time slot.  As we have seen thus far, dogs have been money on Thursday night college football.  If this line were a TD or less, I might consider taking the Noles, but thats clearly not the case as the oddsmakers screwed this one up. 

The line opened at Noles -14, which was obviously a public luring line with an attempt to capitalize on the popularity of the Noles in this situation.  However, some big swings for the Pack have led the oddsmakers to think otherwise and move this line down to now 11-12 in most places.  They knew they had made a mistake as the line was seriously inflated.  It's still off by 6 points currently as the Noles shouldn't be favored by any more than a TD. 

Let's also not forget both teams coming off a bye here and will be well prepared for this game, which should indicate a closer game than expected.  These 2 teams know each other an hate each other (North Carolina State is 6-1 ATS in its last 7 games when playing Florida State).

Dangerous situation for Noles backers here. 

NC State +12

Samson Prime
useravatar
Offline
297 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

I don't have a opinion on either game tonight so I will just wait for my friends over at EAST COAST SPORTS CONSULTANTS to see if I will have a play tonight.  big_smile

Blade
useravatar
Offline
221257 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

LOL - So what are their fade units the last 2 weeks Blade?   I am curious to see the stats on this one as it seems like you have made a nice chunk of change using this "ECS fade system".

Samson Prime
useravatar
Offline
297 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Thursday Night Football

All picks ATS record is: 17-19 although 3 of those wins came in on Monday with Cleveland.  They probably have more picks that I overlooked, but these are the ones I found over the last two weeks.

podsports
useravatar
Offline
204 Posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Board Info

Board Stats:
 
Total Topics:
45522
Total Polls:
2
Total Posts:
287721
Average Posts Per Hour:
5.2
User Info:
 
Total Users:
3699
Newest User:
Brandon Blair
Members Online:
1
Guests Online:
2594

Online: 
Red Dog

Forum Legend:

 Topic
 New
 Locked
 Sticky
 Active
 New/Locked
 Sticky/Locked

Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Contact Us | Advertising | 888-99-SPREAD

THIS IS NOT A GAMBLING SITE – If you think you have a gambling problem click here.

Disclaimer: This site is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Individual users are responsible for the laws regarding accessing gambling information from their jurisdictions. Many countries around the world prohibit gambling, please check the laws in your location. Any use of this information that may violate any federal, state, local or international law is strictly prohibited.

Copyright: The information contained on TheSpread.com website is protected by international copyright and may not be reproduced, or redistributed in any way without expressed written consent.

About: TheSpread.com is the largest sports betting news site in the United States. We provide point spread news, odds, statistics and information to over 199 countries around the world each year. Our coverage includes all North American College and Professional Sports as well as entertainment, political and proposition wagering news.

©1999-2013 TheSpread.com